Saturday, November 28, 2015

I Have Two Serious Quibbles with this List

NTN: The 12 debut novels that changed crime fiction 

13 comments:

Jeffrey Meyerson said...

1. Elizabeth is Missing? Changed crime fiction? I guess I missed that memo because I've never heard of it.
2. The Colin Dexter didn't change crime fiction either. The television series was a hit but the book? Not so much.

Bill Crider said...

(1) THE GODFATHER isn't Mario Puzo's debut novel.
(2) THE COYOTE CONNECTION is missing.

Jeffrey Meyerson said...

The persecution never ends.

I knew that about THE GODFATHER.

Jerry House said...

Yeah, they really just should have listed THE COYOTE CONNECTION twelve times.

Anders E said...

Henning Mankell first novel was published in 1973, roughly two decades before FACELESS KILLERS.

Bill Crider said...

Okay, now I have three serious quibbles.

Richard R. said...

I don't believe any one novel can "change crime fiction".

Max Allan Collins said...

Where are RED HARVEST and I, THE JURY?

Don Coffin said...

I was about to point out Red Harvest. And, for me, Fer-de-Lance (not Rex Stout's first novel, but his first crime/mystery novel). Also, Casino Royale is not really a crime novel...it may (or may not) have changes spy fiction (even there, I'd take The Ipcress File). It's too early to tell what effect, if any, The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo will have (I couldn't finish it, but that's just me).

Todd Mason said...

Yeah, there's an unfortunate preponderance of bullshit content here, and this "explains" the lack of RED HAVEST:

"If Dashiell Hammett initiated the private eye genre with the stories he wrote for various pulp magazines, it was Raymond Chandler who refined it and, in his first novel, gave it true definition."

Did I mention a fair amount of bullshit here?

Max Allan Collins said...

I there are people who rate THE BIG SLEEP above THE MALTESE FALCON, but (a) I am not one of them, and (b) they are wrong.

RHovey, CA said...

Poe? Cornell Woolrich? Hillerman, Upfield, or whoever first helped usher in/popularize the ethnic mystery? Yeah, Colin Dexter? Huh?

E Craig said...

I would agree with what has been said here. My addition to the mix would be the novel Dope By Sax Rohmer 1919. Not his first but interesting subject matter for the time.